Minutes of the East League Management Committee

Thursday, 10th April, 2014 – held at The London Stansted Hilton.

 

Attendees:

 

Andy Barlow

X

Richard Malone

X

David Roberts

/

David Burt

/

Philip Maddison

X

Pritpal Sagoo

/

Christina Dewing

X

Sarah Mann

/

Kishor Shah

/

Sarah Smith

/

Samantha Menear

X

James Sheppard

/

Janet Goody

X

Richard Munns

/

Ali Smyth

/

Barry Harness

X

Russell Nutter

/

Henry Wanchoo

X

Nick Hoyle

/

Chris Perry

/

Nicola Wilkes

X

Neil Liversedge

/

Rosemary Prince

/

 

 

 

 

1.     Apologies – Samantha Menear, Andy Barlow, Barry Harness, Richard Malone, Janet Goody, Nicola Wilkes, Henry Wanchoo, Christina Dewing

 

2.     Minutes of the Last Meeting

2.1            The minutes of the last meeting were accepted with two additions

2.2            David Burt had reported an issue in the playing matters regarding a complaint from Dereham regarding shirts numbering. DBs view was that the complaint was a match day issue. The complaint was issued directly to umpires and a course of action was agreed. Therefore it was a rule that the neither League Manager nor ELMC would adjudicate on umpires decisions. Therefore no further action. It had been noted that Norfolk Hockey Umpires Association had placed a very good piece of advice and guidance to their umpires relating to this issue. 

2.3            Pritpal Sagoo had made a request for a minor change to the website to try to show players with multiple yellow cards who may have transferred. Subsequent to the meeting NL had spoken to Trevor Williams who had said that there was no direct relation between the cards database and the transfer database. However he would place team names against each card recipient and that would indicate people with the same name, who have played for differing clubs.

 

3.     Correspondence

3.1            Ramgarhia 2Ős – Letter received voicing disappointment at the Leagues Decision regarding use of Kingsford Community College pitch.

3.2            NL reminded committee that in June last year they had received a proposal from North Walsham in regard to changing the bottom 2 divisions on the NE quadrant to make them more localised leagues. A survey and extensive correspondence had taken place with all clubs in the quadrant. Clubs had voted 8 to 7 in favour of change. However some clubs had written spirited emails about the differing standards between the top of Division 6 and the bottom of Division 7. It was a fact that the border stated in the North Walsham proposal would have to move further north because of the imbalance between number of teams in the North and South which meant the border would affect one of the Norwich Teams, and one of the Norwich teams had written that although they supported the proposal if the border was Norwich then they would rather keep the status quo. After lengthy discussion the committee agreed to maintain the current arrangement for the time being.

 

 

4.     Playing Matters

4.1            Top Goal scorers – currently confirmed as EML 2 x Men on 54 goals (J Betts/March and J Suett/Witham), EWL 39 goals (Loren Christian – Letchworth). A last call would go out on Monday 14th April with a final deadline of Friday 18th April.

4.2            Sarah Mann – Player R Grainger had started the League season playing for St Neots and after 1 game moved to Shefford and Sandy where she had previously been a member. No transfer had taken place. It was agreed that Shefford and Sandy were responsible for ensuring the transfer took place and would be deducted 6 points from this seasonŐs table and the player would be suspended for 2 games at the start of next season. Sarah to notify the club.

Sarah had adjudicated in a game between Shefford and Sandy and Bedford. The game had been awarded 5-0 to Shefford and Sandy as Bedford had strengthened their team.

4.3            Richard Malone - No issues outstanding, just wished to point out that UEA2 had won their League even though they had had 2 points deducted for strengthening teams. He had received an assurance from Club Coach and Captain that there will be a better understanding rules going into next season.

4.4            Barry Harness – March 2 conceded 3 games travelling to North Lincolnshire clubs, would like a condition of entry next season that they commit to travel in Division 5NW. NL would monitor the League entries and would write to March on entering a 2nd X1.

4.5            Nicola Wilkes – Holcombe HC had had 5 matches awarded against them for fielding players from their National League squad during the EHL Christmas break. Holcombe had appealed but the Appeal Committee had dismissed the appeal.

4.6            Chris Perry reported that Rochford Casuals, after having multiple games awarded against them due to their non-affiliation to England Hockey in the first half of the season had avoided relegation with a superb performance. Hopefully Rochford will have learned that the administration side of hockey is just as important as playing moving forwards into future seasons.

4.7            Russell Nutter offered congratulations to West Herts and Bedford on becoming East League champions in their respective Leagues and wished both clubs well in the future. The congratulations were echoed by all of the committee.

4.8            Ali Smyth had awarded a game against City of Peterborough 9Ős for doubling up too many players in a game.

4.9            Sarah Smith had had an issue with a Luton Town player who played a game for Luton Vagrants. The issue was brought to her attention by Luton Town as no transfer had taken place. Issued was dealt with successfully.

 

5.     Finance

5.1            Andy Barlow reported that so far this season to date Ł360 has been raised in fines.

 

6.     Umpiring

6.1            A proposal had been received from the ERHUA for technical red cards to be introduced into games appointed by the ERHUA (EML Premier A and B, EWL Premier). Committee agreed with the proposal and agreed relevant rule changes. There was some concern regarding the careful implementation of the rule and both NL and the Chair of ERHUA would agree a brief to both ERHUA Umpires and Premier League clubs. On the discipline side a Technical Red Card in ERHUA games, would count as 2 yellows and the Yellow card rule had been amended to reflect this.

6.2            Cambridgeshire HUA had threatened to pull umpires from Wisbech HC; action by club averted this happening.

 

7.     Discipline

7.1            Richard Munns reported that the number of cards issued to date were:

 

 

RED

YELLOW

EWL

0

185

EML

35

1515

 

In comparison to the previous season in total there had been 2 less red cards issued however there had been an increase of 230 more yellow cards shown. It was also noted that there would be some carry over suspensions in terms of red cards and multiple yellow cards.

 

 

 

 

 

8.     Rule Changes

In addition to the Rule Changes agreed at previous ELMC meetings the following to be put forwards at the AGM.

8.1            Rule 5.2 Club umpiring.

Clubs must use their own umpires for matches in other divisions.  Umpires in all matches in EWL and in EML 3NE, 4NW, 5SE, and 4SW and above must be fully qualified Club Umpire (Assessed) or higher.  In lower divisions Club Umpires (Unassessed) umpires may be used.

A Club Umpire (Unassessed) may be used in EWL Div. 2 and EML 3NE, 4NW, 5SE and 4SW games if they are being assessed for their full Club Umpire (Assessed) registration qualification. In games of this nature it is the responsibility of the club of the umpire being assessed to inform both the League Manager and their opposition at least 48 hours prior to the game taking place.

Clubs must have twice as many Club Umpires as league teams, of which up to half may be registered Club Umpires (Unassessed).  Before the start of the season, all clubs must update the list of their umpires on the East Hockey website. This list must be kept up to date during the season.  Listed umpires must be EH registered and should be members of their CHUA.

Using a club umpire in a league match who is not listed or is not a CHUA member will result in the match being awarded by the League Manager to the opposing side 0-5 or 0-score, whichever is the greater.

 

8.2            Rule 7.3 – Yellow Cards

A player who receives a third yellow card in the season in East League matches shall be automatically suspended by his club for the next league day, and likewise for a fourth yellow card. A player receiving a fifth or further yellow card shall be automatically suspended for the next two league days.  If a ban cannot be completed by the end of the season, it is carried forward to the beginning of the next league season.

A player in EML Divisions Premier A or B or EWL Premier Division (i.e. games officiated by ERHUA) who receive a technical red card will be deemed to have received 2 yellow cards in the same game and these cards shall be considered in any automatic suspension.

A league day is a Saturday in the League Fixture List or a day on which the club is playing a slip.  If the team for which the player normally plays has no fixture on the next league day, the penalty shall be applied to the next league day on which the team has a fixture or slip. 

If a player is selected to play contrary to this rule, the penalties set out in rule 3.7 will apply, and further penalties may be considered under rule 7.2.

 

8.3            NEW Rule 7.4 – Technical Red Cards

7.4.1 Technical Red Cards will only apply in EML Premier A, Premier B Divisions and EWL Premier Divisions.

7.4.2 A ÔTechnical red cardŐ means a red card issued by an umpire to a player for that playerŐs second yellow card offence during the same match which in the opinion of the umpire does not warrant any additional sanction than permanent suspension from the current match and subject to the penalties associated with Technical Red Cards as described in Rule 7.3.
7.4.3 Where an umpire issues a red card that he/she decides should be treated as a Technical red card the umpire should inform the offender at the time that the Technical red card is issued, the umpire is not required to complete a Red Card Report Form, and the Red Card and MMO Regulations shall not apply.

8.4            Current Rule 7.4 renumbered as 7.5

8.5            In light of the problems experienced by Holcombe in the Christmas break it was proposed that Rule 3.5 be amended to read

                                    Team selection: EHL Clubs 

A Club in the English Hockey League may not play 14 of the 1st team players listed on an EHL Teamsheet (including all 11 starting players) in an East League match in the same weekend.  If there is no EHL match in a weekend the restriction must be based on the teamsheet for the last EHL match played. During the Dec-Jan break in the EHL 14 players (including all 11 starting players) selected on the last two EHL Teamsheets in November may not play in the East League.  When EHL matches are played on a Sunday, Saturday East League team selections must anticipate the Sunday EHL Teamsheet.  First team players allowed under this rule to play for a lower team in the East League may only do so subject additionally to Rule 3.6.1.  League Managers will monitor compliance by checking EHL Teamsheets.

 

8.6            There was also a lengthy discussion about conceded matches and teams not travelling to long away games. There had been examples this season where teams seemed just not to be bothered in trying to raise a team for a long away game and there was evidence to suggest that some games had been cancelled on a Ňtit-for-tatÓ basis. Therefore it was agreed to modify Rule 4.9 extending the deduction of 3 points as well as having the game awarded 5-0 against the offending team. Therefore it was agreed that Rule 4.9 be amended to read

                                    4.9 Failure to Honour a Fixture

If a team fails to honour a fixture because of lack of numbers or disinclination to travel or similar reason, the League Manager will normally award the match 0-5 against and will also deduct 3 points.  However, under exceptional circumstances the League Manager may instead decide that such a match is not forfeit and should be rearranged or voided. A Home Club may charge the cost of pitch hire to a visiting side that has failed to honour a fixture and has not notified the Home Club at least two full days before the day of the match, e.g. by Wednesday for Saturday.

A team that fails to honour four matches will be automatically withdrawn from the League and all previous results will be rendered void.

 

  1. Next Season

9.1            All League managers and committee members had agreed to stay on, with the exception of P Maddison as previously advised.

9.2            Still waiting to see how many teams will come down from EHL. St Albans were confirmed in the MenŐs section. Old Loughtonians had come out of the Ladies and Chelmsford were in the EHL play offs.

9.3            Work was needed on the format of EWL 1N and S and the respective Division 2Ős due to geographic locations.

9.4            In recognition of the survey and feedback given by the Ladies teams and over-riding wish for more games in Division 3 and 4NWN/S it was proposed that there would be 1 x Division 3 and 1 Division 4N and Division 4S, which on current club numbers would give 1 league division of 12 teams and 2 League Divisions of 11 teams.  

9.5            A proposal from North Walsham in regard to changing the bottom 2 divisions of the EML NE quadrant to make them more localised leagues. A survey and extensive correspondence had taken place with all clubs in the quadrant. Clubs had voted 8 to 7 in favour of change. However some clubs had written spirited emails about the differing standards between the top of Division 6 and the bottom of Division 7. It was a fact that the border stated in the North Walsham proposal would have to move further north because of the imbalance between number of teams in the North and South which meant the border would affect one of the Norwich Teams, and one of the Norwich teams had written that although they supported the proposal if the border was Norwich then they would rather keep the status quo. After lengthy discussion the committee agreed to maintain the current arrangement for the time being. It was noted that most clubs had acknowledged to pay more attention to the travelling distance and subsequent time slots allocated to games.

 

10.   AGM and Presentation Day

10.1         Will be held on Sunday 8th June at Letchworth Hockey Club. The AGM will start at 2.00pm with the Presentations starting at 3.00pm.

10.2         Trophies still to be received from East London, Southend 2, St Albans 5 and Shefford and Sandy 2. The EWL Fair Play award is also outstanding from Saffron Walden.

10.3         Notice of AGM and voting papers will be sent by 8th May

10.4         Invitations to Presentation Day – Each League Manager to contact their successful clubs. We had 100% attendance last year; the same is desired this year!! VIP invitations to be sent to ERHA President, Secretary, Treasurer and ERHUA President and Chairman.

10.5         Trophies – Nick Hoyle and Sarah Mann will arrange purchase and engraving

10.6         League Tables – Sarah Smith will print

10.7         Fair Play Award – Richard Munns to work on

10.8         Top Goal scorers – EML 2 x Men on 54 goals (J Betts/March and J Suett/Witham), EWL 39 goals (Loren Christian – Letchworth) so far.

 

11.   ERHA Management Meeting

11.1         No issues to report back

 

12.   Any other Business

12.1         C Perry asked NL to write a letter to Southend HC about administration. There were two

issues. The first was regarding payment for teas against a club where payment was promised many times and not actually paid. The second issue was regarding lack of support for their MenŐs Fixture Secretary during a period of illness.

 

13.   Date of next meeting

AGM and Presentation Day, Sunday 8th June. Proposed dates for next seasons meetings 9th October, 5th February and 16th April.